12 team SF start 11 Tua for a 2026 1st + 2025 3.09

Tua

Personally? I might give the 3.09 for Tua. I wouldn’t give a 2036 first for him though, let alone a 2026 first. I said it all last season, and nothing happened this year that didn’t support everything I said. He is hands down the worst fantasy starting QB you can have. It’s not a knock on him as a player, he’s a bad fantasy QB. Among the very worst.

i wouldnt give a first for tua

His consistency rates are better marks than guys like Herbert, Mahomes, Love, Stroud, Stafford…

excluding week 2 for obvious reasons, 50% of his games he finished top 12. like Seal said you can do worse but he has a solid floor and there is risk with any QB. his concussion was 100% preventable and it isnt like a skill player who is taking constant hits. he is fine

last year wasn’t as consistent but I’ll eat those 5, 10-12 pt games when he throws for almost 5k and 30tds. In sf, having an anchor at qb1 and knowing when to play your qb2/3 is a fine recipe for success.

Ps. You don’t need to say you’re not talking down to me. I’m an adult. We can have a conversation and disagree without a hitch

I completely disagree. I’m more talking about his entire body of work, cuz this isn’t new with him. His best year was 2023 for somewhat obvious reasons. But when you blend his injuries (you can say they’re preventable, but I believe this is his 4th or 5th major concussion) with his inconsistency (which isn’t personal to Tua, some of it is game script and personnel related), he’s a terrible fantasy QB that gets valued routinely as a top 10. I use 10 pnt and 16 pnt thresholds below, as I view less than 10 a weakness, and 16 a relative minimum starting caliber score. 2024: 9 games < 10 pnts, 6 games > 16 pnts 2023: (BEST YEAR) 3 games < 10 pnts, 8 games > 16 2022: 6 games < 10 pnts, 5 games > 16 pnts 2021: 7 games < 10 pnts, 6 games > 16 pnts 2020: 10 games < 10 pnts, 5 games > 16 points

Are you counting the games he didn’t even play???

Are you starting him on the games in which he didn’t start?

😂

I understand the best ability is availability, but counting those games in your consistency rates is asinine. For the record, nobody is pricing tua as a top ten qb. Hes my dyno qb 20.

At least nobody I know 😅

If you want to glaze that over with the idea that you’d be starting someone else, just look at the number of games he hits minimum thresholds

You’re including the games he didn’t start for your minimum thresholds. So yeah, I’ll be starting someone else in those games.

And no, I wouldn’t trade a 26 1st for tua. I agree with you there

I actually agree if Tua is falling around QB20ish. That’s about where is and should have been. This is a rollover argument I had from last year where everyone was putting Tua at QB 10-12

and he only played 10 games this past yr excluding BUF injury game. why are you counting that with your less than 10 range?

Qb 10-12 ranking last year was pretty silly. Of his 10 games he didn’t hit your minimum threshold, 5 came after December 1st. That’s so gross

25 1st and 26 first and if they both projected 7 or later. N o. How are you going to replace Tua with a late 1st?

My entire argument is a cost/value argument. And always has been with him

yeah that happens, but counting on it?

like I understand the logic but it sounds like you'd apply the same to someone like Darnold, correct me if im wrong. been shit his entire career, but wouldnt pay his current cost or close to it even though he had a breakout yr?